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Reader Story: Beware of Scams and Pyramid Schemes

Posted by J.D. in General, Blogs, Retirement, Saving (Sunday May 11, 2008 at 12:00 pm)

In the past, I’ve shared the story of the worst job I ever had. In a lot of ways, it felt like I was part of a pyramid scheme or multi-level marketing operation. I’ve been approached to participate in similar operations since then: once by my veterinarian (?!?) and once by a stranger in a book store. Sometimes you cannot tell a scam is a scam until you see it up close, and then the sunk-cost fallacy will sometimes force you to make a poor choice. GRS reader Bozemblem recently sent me this story of his close encounter with a “business opportunity” that turned out to be a scam.

I’ve been reading Get Rich Slowly for about a year now, and I can definitely relate when you talk about your struggles and triumphs with money. Here’s an experience I recently had.

I currently work and live in one of the most expensive parts of the United States. I’m going to school part-time to get my MS in Computer Science. School is very expensive, even with my employer paying a great deal of the tuition. On top of that I’m getting married next year and I have a tiny amount of credit card debt.  I do a very good job of budgeting my money; I follow it quite closely and it won’t be long before I’ve rid myself of the debt.  However, as you might be able to tell, money is a bit of a concern and so I’m always looking for way to either decrease my spending (which I think I’ve done a good job of so far without going crazy) or increase my income (which is much harder to do, and it is my attempt to do so which is why I’m writing you).

Business opportunity
The other night I was in the grocery store buying some items for my sick fiancee.  Unfortunately, there was only one cashier on duty and I was one of an unusually large number of customers that night.  As I waited in line, a nice gentleman in line behind me struck up a conversation. I spent some time talking to him and eventually we got around to talking about what we did for a living, and I mentioned that I am a software engineer.  Upon hearing that, he got pretty excited and told me that he was a small business owner in need of someone with my skill set.  Seeing this as an opportunity to possible earn some extra money, we exchanged number and he promised to call me the next week to talk about opportunities for some part-time work with his company.

Later that next week he called me, and we set up a time to meet.  He told me to meet him at a hotel the next week; he and some of his fellow small business owners were part of a larger corporation, and he presented this to me as an opportunity to network and meet other people who may be interested in my skills.  Cautiously optimistic, I agreed.

Well tonight I met this individual and had quite the experience.  It slowly started to come together for me, and the saddest part about it is that those were three hours that I will never get back.  Turns out, it was just one large pyramid scheme, and it didn’t matter if I was a software engineer or not.

Pyramid scheme
Here’s how the operation works: you join as an “apprentice” of another member, and you maximize your profits by getting other people to become your “apprentice”.  It was disguised as an “e-commerce” (sorry for the abuse of quotation marks) operation; basically you bought your home goods from this one organization instead of a place like Wal-Mart.  Everyone else you got to sign up and buy those same goods from that organization would gain you some money.  And when they got people to sign up, then you would get a cut of the profits as well.  As soon as I had an opportunity, I left, feeling disgusted and embarrassed.

I however, was the only one.  Of the other “candidates” in the room, only I left.  Everyone else seemed excited.  It’s not hard to see how.  The speaker was very compelling; very funny and personable.  He spoke of living a “lifestyle” as opposed to a life (my first red flag).  Then he talked about stuff like “how would you feel if you could drive a different car…every day of the week!”  He then had us list out which 7 cars we wanted.  Actually, we listed out 6.  Aston Martins, Rolls-Royces, etc…  The 7th car he picked.  And it was the car he drove, and he implied that it was through this program that he was able to afford it.  I wish I could have left right then, but I was sitting near the front and although I hated myself for being there, I couldn’t bear to be rude either.

Your readers should be aware of these operations!  They may sound good, and the money may be real, but it’s all top-heavy.  The ones at the bottom (ie. YOU) won’t be making all that money, but you’ll help someone else do it!  Beware of the charismatic speaker; this guy was really good; going so far as to say “I don’t even care if you join or not”.  Implying, of course, that he’s doing us a favor, despite the fact that he wouldn’t have any money if no one signed up. 

But that one statement was so powerful, and I could tell my fellow attendees were getting sucked in.  That one statement created such a sense of urgency and yet indifference on his part.  He was basically saying that he didn’t need us, that he can find more people, the “right” people.  And he kept talking about us being “candidates”, and he spoke often of a selection process.  I’m not privy to such information, but if I had to guess, I would say that we were all going to be selected. 

Get rich quick!
That and numerous other methods were employed to give us a sense of opportunity, and give us a taste of the rich lifestyle.  He was damn good at his job, and I don’t doubt that he’s made plenty of money off of his considerable talents.  Oh, and don’t forget the $200 registration fee, the $150 insurance costs, and the undisclosed costs of the training materials.  By the way, I only got those figures by pressing my “sponsor” until he finally relented.

It’s easy to see how people can get sucked in.  Everyone else was just like me; needed a little extra cash, pressed for time and anxious to explore any opportunity, we were rip for picking.  I thank goodness that my dad instilled in me a sense of skepticism, else I may have ended up with the rest of them. 

Unfortunately, the road to riches isn’t that easy.  It’s simple, but it isn’t quick and painless.  You just gotta spend less than you earn (by prioritization and reducing the number of unnecessary “wants”), save as much as you can, diversify your investments, and constantly improve the most critical investment, yourself (through taking on a variety of tasks at your job, even if they’re outside of your typical skillset and by continuing your education).  Invest in index funds, open a high-yield savings account, contribute at least enough to your 401(k) to max out your company’s match and fund your IRA; doing so will provide plenty of wealth going forward, just do the math!

A learning experience
There is one positive that came out of my experience with the pyramid scheme.  The speaker preached constantly about how his program is different than a typical job because it gave you “freedom”.  That’s not really true, it just transfers your obligations, and it provides you with a significant amount of risk if you are one of those who chose to do that type of thing full time (and there are those people). 

The bright side for me was that I realized how much I hated the lack of freedom that working in a traditional career offers.  And I’ve always had an idea for a real small business (as opposed to the scheme’s definition of a small business) that I’ve always wanted to open, and I’m going to start working towards that goal.  I’ve been inspired to work to free myself from work, and to get to the point where I won’t be susceptible to schemes like the one I got sucked into tonight.  Perhaps not the motivation these guys were looking for, but that’s what I got out of it!

Bozemblem’s experience is similar to several I’ve had in my own life. I believe he’s right: programs like this can provide income and success to those at the top, or to those who have special luck or motivation. But for most people, they’re actually a net loss. Do you have experience with pyramid schemes or multi-level marketing? Was this experience positive or negative? What advice do you have for others who might be considering this as a way to make money? Checkout line photo by szlea. Conference photo by Jeffrey Beall.

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Happy Mother’s Day & Money Tips from Mom

Posted by Tricia in General, Blogs (Sunday May 11, 2008 at 11:36 am)

To all of the moms out there, I wish you a very happy Mother’s Day! My son and husband went out shopping yesterday to buy me gifts and it was all about practicality. I received a package of pens and a small pillow to sit with while working on the computer. Both were my son’s ideas (although I have a sneaky feeling that if dad wasn’t there I would have ended up with a LEGO set or something LOL). If the rain holds out, we may end up visiting the lake for a picnic to round out the day. We’ll see.

While searching for a Mother’s Day quote, I stumbed across an article at MSN about money tips from your mom. While the tips are not specifically finance-related, they are the things moms often say that can be applied to your financial life.

“Have a place for everything, and everything in its place.” “You can do anything if you set your mind to it.” “Practice, practice, practice.”

There are 10 tips in all: 10 Money Tips from Mom.

Happy Mother’s Day!!

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Citigroup eyes selling Japan consumer unit: paper (Reuters)

Posted by Yahoo! News: Personal Finance News in General (Sunday May 11, 2008 at 1:26 am)

Men walk past a Citibank sign outside its Tokyo branch November 5, 2007. (Toru Hanai/Reuters)Reuters - Citigroup Inc is considering selling its Japanese consumer finance company CFJ KK or cutting the unit's business significantly as part of its plans to shed assets, Japanese daily Nikkei reported on Sunday.


One on one interview with Warren Buffett

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Gene Marcial recommends 7 stocks for 7 years.

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Are You Experiencing Problems With Get Rich Slowly?

Posted by J.D. in General, Blogs, Retirement, Saving (Saturday May 10, 2008 at 7:36 pm)

H.B. sent me a note this afternoon to tell me that Get Rich Slowly seems to be broken:

I know you wrote a couple of days ago that there were some issues with the program you used to run the site and I just wanted to alert you to what I’ve been experiencing the past two days.

Each time I go to getrichslowly.org/blog, the only thing that shows is the most recent entry you’ve posted, instead of the current entry plus the past few days following it on one page. I clicked on ‘comments’ to see if that would make a difference and it doesn’t, I still see only the entry itself. Also, nothing in the way of ads or archival links show up in the right-hand margin of the front page.

Anyone else experiencing this? Can you send me some screenshots? Can you tell me which browser and operating system you’re using? This would explain some of the data I’ve been seeing. I haven’t experienced the problem myself, though, so I’m in the dark as to what’s the matter…

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Young widower pushes for change in Mass. life insurance law (AP)

Posted by Yahoo! News: Personal Finance News in General (Saturday May 10, 2008 at 1:35 pm)
AP - When Jenny and John Crowley learned they were having a baby, they did the responsible thing: they bought life insurance.

Motivation for the Weekend - More Bloggers Who Have Paid Off Their Debt

Posted by Tricia in General, Blogs (Saturday May 10, 2008 at 9:14 am)

Back in February of 2007, I listed some bloggers who captured that sweet moment of debt payoff while blogging about it. Well, it’s time to update that list with a few more inspirational success stories:

Debt Hater - $16,000 in credit card debt

I started this blog about three years ago in a panic. I was nearly $16G in credit card debt AND I had a nearly new car payment, new job and new expenses. Two jobs, two moves and the same car later, and I did it.

I messed up A LOT on the way.

I didn’t always do the brilliant financial thing.

Brainy Smurf - $28,000 in credit card debt

Today, it’s 100% gone.

The hockey jerseys are paid for. The vinyl siding is paid for. The roof is paid for. The furnace is paid for. The computers are paid for. The camera equipment is paid for. The BMW is paid for. Even the $7k vacation nearly a decade ago is paid for…

The Bizzaros - $24,700 in credit card debt

The Bizarros are out of debt. And have been for a about a month. I wanted to learn how to run up a tree and do a flip to celebrate, and I had planned to do the research, but let’s face it, I’m just not a tree-flipper.

Here are the bloggers from the previous list:

Defying Debt in 2 Years - $30,000 in debt

“I appreciate how I learned who my true friends are and how you can pretty accurately judge a person based on how they treat people who don’t wear fancy clothes or flash their money around. I appreciate the freedom that comes when you don’t have to struggle paycheck to paycheck to survive. I truly appreciate all the things that you can buy with money because I lived so long without having much.”

Beyond Broke - $29,000 in student loan debt

“It’s over, I finally did it.

I am debt free.

This means my paycheques are finally mine. They’re not earmarked to send to someone else. I can now put it straight into a savings account where I’m paid interest instead of being charged it!!”

No Credit Needed - $11,510.22 - various types of debt

“Free at last, free at last, it’s hard to believe but it feels so good, I am Free at last!

Bye, Bye Ford Motor Credit! Bye Bye Chase and Citi! Bye, Bye Credit Card Companies!!! Bye, Bye! Bye, Bye MasterCard and Visa! BYE, BYE!!!”

Random Posts

The Rise of Suburban Farming

Posted by J.D. in General, Blogs, Retirement, Saving (Saturday May 10, 2008 at 9:00 am)

When our friends Mike and Rhonda moved into their new house a couple years ago, their yard was just like every other in the neighborhood: green grass. Chances are, that’s what the yards are like in your neighborhood, too. But over the past two years, Mike and Rhonda have transformed their lot into something different. They’ve created what might be described as a suburban farm.

Mike ripped out all the sod and built stone walls and paths. Rhonda — a certified Master Gardener — planted berries and vegetables in the backyard. In the front yard, she created a garden of flowers, fruits, and native plants.

They’re not our only friends to do this. Craig and Lisa — whom I mentioned recently — have spent the past few years transforming their suburban plot into a network of gardens as well. Craig, in what some Oregonians might call a fit of insanity, is even growing hops this year. (Lisa writes: “Whether the plants engulf and eat the house is another question altogether.”)

Andrew and Courtney tore out a large section of their front yard to install two raised vegetable beds. Another friend, Amy Jo, has similar aspirations at her new house. Last week she forwarded this video story about suburban farming from the Wall Street Journal. (Here’s the accompanying article.)

I’m not ready to rip out our entire lawn and convert to farming. (We have too much lawn!) But Kris and I already have a kitchen garden — we grow many of our own berries, fruits, and vegetables. Someday we’d like to have chickens, and maybe even a goat.

I’m pleased that suburban gardening seems to be thriving. It may or may not be cost-effective (I’m running my year-long gardening project to find out), but the food quality is excellent and the work rewarding.

Here are some past articles related to this topic:

See also: Little Homestead in the City and a recent New York Times article about kitchen gardens.

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New Way to Ride Nuclear’s Revival

Posted by Kiplinger.com - Investing in General, Investing (Friday May 9, 2008 at 4:28 pm)
A recently launched ETF provides access to an industry that's making a comeback.

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